In Rio de Janeiro, I met Carlos’ two sons and established a relationship with them. I made my first friendships, began to work and to know the spiritual world in which Carlos had developed himself.

Our two sons and one daughter were born. It was an amazingly profound experience. Life took on a whole new dimension I could never have had anticipated, and I dedicated the next several years to raising them.

A few years later, Carlos and I decided to carry out a mutual dream: Moving inland in the state of Rio de Janeiro and, inspired by Esalen, creating a space to welcome groups.